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Live Blog: Third Presidential Debate

Written by Matthew T. Sussman
Published October 15, 2008

Tonight will be the last time these two men have to be in the same room and look at each other. (Actually, looking is optional.) Barack Obama, with a sizable lead in the polls, just needs to — sports metaphor! — run the clock down and take a knee, while John McCain might have to roll the dice and actually say something useful to the American people.

It will all take place during the third and final presidential debate, held at Hofstra University in Long Island. This is probably the Arizona Republican Senator's last best chance at clawing his way back. After tonight, it's nothing but attack ads and promises of nude pictures of his daughter, Megan, to surface if he wins.

All right, that last one you might be waiting forever for. But tonight has to yield some sort of surprise. After all, BC Magazine is going to live blog the whole thing. The fun begins at 9 p.m. EST, but the live blog will kick off a tad before that, so we as a group and community can fan the flames of partisan rhetoric ahead of time, that way the marshmallows can begin to singe quicker than you can say "subprime mortgage."

Sure, you can comment on the debate "below the Amazon belt," but in this case, sweet heavens, why? Using CoverItLive technology, you can step into this little applet window and spout off your nonsense with us. We merely ask that you be as courteous as you would be with anyone else on Blogcritics. Um ... check that. We merely ask that you be more courteous than normal. We don't want to have to throw the one-time banhammer at anyone. (Actually, we love doing that. So please deprive us of our one true vice.)

Matt SussmanMatt Sussman is the former sports editor of BC Magazine and also writes for Deadspin, SPORTSbyBROOKS, The Futon Report, and the Toledo Free Press. Catch him with Tuffy on Treehouse Fort, the official show of BC Sports.

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Published: October 15, 2008
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#1 — October 15, 2008 @ 14:29PM — Ramsey Ksar [URL]

Hey, if you want to try out another service, check out gsnap.com. It's a new service similar to coveritlive but different in many ways (you can broadcast updates to/from a mobile phone in addition to them web). They're also covering the debate.

Previous debate
Upcoming debate.

#2 — October 15, 2008 @ 19:08PM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

Actually I think we'll go with the software that doesn't draw traffic away from Blogcritics.

Also, kids, Dave Nalle will be liveblogging with me. With two sources of hot hair, we'll see if CIL technology can withstand helium-like force.

#3 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:28PM — Erik

McCain seems more on the offensive this debate.

#4 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:31PM — Mike H

Obama is getting his teeth kicked in tonight. McCain has changed the game.

#5 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:34PM — Heloise

Sussman I've been live blogging before you ever got online and I've never heard of censoring it. Usually done between professionals but I don't get the methodology here. There are only a few people here to begin with.

Heloise

#6 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:38PM — Matt

Its a shame. The only insightful moment so far was McCain's comment that Obama's corporate taxes would decrease jobs because companies will go overseas. Now we're back to the mudslinging. I'm over this election.

#7 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:44PM — El Bicho [URL]

"Actually I think we'll go with the software that doesn't draw traffic away from Blogcritics."

but you'll post commets that do? How did georgia's 9:40 Best.question.ever link get through

#8 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:49PM — Heloise

Sarah's future job "advocate for special needs" she'll fit right in with the Kennedys if she goes there.

In fact she has special needs like a brain.

Heloise

#9 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:51PM — Heloise

Sheifffer has to muzzle McCain. Old folks like to ramble on and McCpone has that down pat.

#10 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:55PM — jwd21

John McCain is kicking butt! He's made a turn around in this debate, but again I suppose the media (not the American people) will nominate that smiling monkey (that's not racist, he looks like a chimp when he flashes that "I'm better than you" smile) as the winner.

#11 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:56PM — DJ

McCain cool down you are losing!!

#12 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:56PM — Clumper

Who does Obaaa think owns all those "big corporations" he wants to tax out of existence? Millions of little people - teachers, union members, firefighters, government emoployees and regular Joe Sixpack families - who have pension plans and 401(k) plans and investment clubs. Obama deliberately misrepresents the percentage of small businesses that exceed his $250,000 threshhold for damatically incre4ased taxes. He is a fraud and charlitan.

#13 — October 15, 2008 @ 21:59PM — Heloise

There you have it folks: how live "crap" blogging goes with conservatives--they're all conveniently for regulation when it comes to opposing views!!

#14 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:04PM — John Wallace [URL]

Look. Obama is kicking McCain's teeth on healthcare.

#15 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:11PM — Heloise

Lizards have no teeth didn't ya know? I mean McCain looks like a smiling cameleon. I don't mean that as racist but when he smiles I think reptile in the grass.

People said Hillary looked like a chipmunk with her big cheeks and I was sure she laughed at that.

Heloise

#16 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:17PM — Leigh

McCain is slightly dismissive of Obama. When will he learn that throwing rocks at your opponent makes him look weak.

John focus on the issues not on the other guy

#17 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:18PM — Foruma

The most important debate in our nation, and not enough time allocated to it

#18 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:21PM — lorry

McCain is on the attack because he is desperate to recover his losses. His conduct is sly, sarcastic and sneaky, twisting facts in his desperate scramble. Obama has been clear and concise as usual but I don't know why he has been not more aggressive in McCain's ludicrous choice of running mate though.

McCain's attacks about Obama never traveling to South America (esp columbia) --- does he know who he has chosen to possibly give the reins of the united states and much of the world to??!!! - someone who is ridiculously and proudly un-international in their experience and outlook.

I mean this talk about Joe the plumber is really some cheap psychological tactic to relate to the individual voter with this fictional 'joe' entity. Lets look at the bigger picture here.

#19 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:24PM — sally

I am so proud that Obama has been talking about what he is going to do and sticking with the issues.McCain scares me on health care! Is he nuts! Obama is so presidential unlike McCain who keep jabbing at Obama, he. reminds me of a bully, not a president.

#20 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:28PM — Heloise

Ooops there it is: the McCain eyerolling at Obama comment on S. America will go down in history as the moment that McCain lost it, I mean the election.

WTF? According to McWhat having a Dow's child makes one fit to be VP or POTUS? When did that happen. White people can get into the White house just by fucking showing up!!!

Heloise

#21 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:30PM — Marc

Doesn't Palin's child have Down Syndrome?

#22 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:31PM — Erika W

Did you guys hear McCain mention that 'those big cadillac style healthcare plans that include things like cosmetic surgery and transplants'!?

I guess I'm being frivolous with that new kidney I need, huh?

#23 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:33PM — Heloise

Oops Freudian slip...she has trisomy 21 aka Down's syndrome. They don't know flip about Down or Dow to tell the truth, not even the difference LOL

#24 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:37PM — Heloise

My headline: "The Last Wednesday" goes from A (Ayers) to Z (zzzz as in sleepfest)

Heloise that's my headline

#25 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:44PM — Dr Dreadful [URL]

An excellent, well-moderated debate. McCain came out swinging and dominated the early exchanges. But Obama absolutely killed him on healthcare and he seemed to go back into his shell after that.

Obama was cool and collected throughout, brushed away McCain's Ayers/ACORN attack like dandruff, and didn't fall for any of his opponent's goading.

McCain did come to life when the conversation turned to education and performed impressively, which surprised me somewhat. I hadn't realized he was so passionate about that subject.

Overall, a controlled showing from Obama and a solid performance by McCain - although by no means the ass-kicking he promised to deliver.

A tie, and game over, I think.

#26 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:45PM — Stirling

Why didn't either one of the candidates say anything about nuclear waste? It seems so obvious that nobody has solved this huge problem. It still seems like a bad solution, even temporarily to build more nuclear plants, if it creates this long term toxic waste that threatens the whole planet.

#27 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:46PM — El Bicho [URL]

"the McCain eyerolling at Obama comment on S. America will go down in history as the moment that McCain lost it, I mean the election."

the moment he lost it was when the economy when into the tank and he started his ineffectual grandstand.

btw, yesterday I asked my buddy what he did last wednesday, so it appears Heloise is stealing ideas from El Bicho

#28 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:46PM — Virginia [URL]

Did I hear Obamma say he did not think the Medicare/Medicaid is working and older folks are not getting healthy so he is going to cut the funding for this?

#29 — October 15, 2008 @ 22:57PM — Heloise

Wrongo. After I wrote that post I googled all movie titles for the last 50 years to see if I could find something new. Titles usually just come to me when I'm walking.

However a title: "The Lost Weekend" caught my eye. I changed it to the "last" Wednesday.

Also "trot" "paint" continue to be popular with the MSM. No one said "trot" ever before I used it in an article. It is very British. I think I heard it once in a British movie years ago.

#30 — October 15, 2008 @ 23:00PM — Kate [URL]

Research body language cues for lying behaviors, and then rewatch the debate.... McCain exhibits many, excessive blinking/not maintaining eye contact in particular

#31 — October 15, 2008 @ 23:03PM — Heloise

That's why I never use talking points for example(total cliche now from TPM), and even some stuff I created is now so overused I have to stop using it as well.

Yes, why is Palin talking about autism so much when her child has Down's? Is she confused too as to what her child has? I have a niece with Down's I guess that makes her mom VP material.

H

#32 — October 15, 2008 @ 23:13PM — Dan(Miller) [URL]

Senator McCain did his best job yet in a debate, which I agree with Doc was pretty well moderated. i think he "beat" Senator Obama, but that's just my opinion.

What's with all the Latin under "BC Magazine On The Debate" at the end of the article? I don't understand. Was there some reason for it, or did it just happen?

Dan(Miller)

#33 — October 15, 2008 @ 23:29PM — Kim

Still no mention of immigration? How can we have a debate on health care or our school system with out mentioning illegals here?

#34 — October 15, 2008 @ 23:39PM — Cannonshop

I think McCain finally realized he's the sacrificial candidate put up, like Dole, to fill in space and lose gracefully.

#35 — October 15, 2008 @ 23:48PM — El Bicho [URL]

How could "No one [have] said 'trot' ever before I used it in an article," yet you heard it in a British movie years ago? Even the name Heloise was used by someone before you did, so spare us your delusions of originality.

#36 — October 16, 2008 @ 00:17AM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

Dan, that's just a splash screen. You have to actually click on the "refresh" icon to see what we said.

#37 — October 16, 2008 @ 00:26AM — Indep.Thinker

I think that McCain won this debate hands down. I am not for either one, and I was not afraid to say that Senator Obama won the last two debates. But come one people, get real. Senator Obama was laid back and he did not answer directly many of the questions that were asked. McCain on the other hand was precise and clear, even though some of his policies might not be the best.

Also, I think that the media is having too high of an effect on people's opinions. Don't let what your favorite singers or actors say influence your vote. Look at experience and look at voting records, don't just go with CHANGE. Because what the Obama campaign fails to tell you is that he's not so different from George Bush--increasing government spending, don't be ridiculous we're in a recession. We need to cut as many programs as possible, at least for the time being. On the other hand, it's true that Senator McCain may be in fact to old to run a country and I agree that this year is not a good year to be a republican, but read books do research and you be the judge.

I agree completely with the person that said that Barak Obama wants to bring back socialism. Honestly, lets look at this with some reality...everyone can't be well of monetarily and every one can't be wealthy. Many countries have tried this idea and it has not worked. Look at Cuba; do people want the United states to turn into a dictatorship? Look towards the future.

Lastly, I personally believe that the best candidate for president of the United States is neither Barack Obama nor John McCain. However, if I had to pick one, it would be McCain--just because I've done my research.

I believe 100% that the Republican Party should have picked Ron Paul--our country would have been in good hands.

Make your opinion count and vote :]

#38 — October 16, 2008 @ 00:31AM — Baritone [URL]

Once again, the snap polls show Obama the decisive winner.

McCain is as was suggested by a few, the angry old man shooing the kids off his lawn.

McCain's best moment was when he said that he was NOT Bush, and that if Obama wanted to run against Bush he should have done so 4 years ago. Not bad.

However, Obama's comeback, if not as poignant, was more to the point that it is so easy to confuse McCain for Bush owing to the similarities in their policies.

I want to hear from Joe the Plumber. No doubt we will tomorrow.

B

#39 — October 16, 2008 @ 01:19AM — Travis

Why does John McCain just dance around questions and shift focus to other areas of the debate? Why did he start talking about Free trade with Columbia, when the question was about foreign oil and how to cut it out? Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain both like to avoid questions and shift focus to other issues. Obama did a great job staying focused and addressing the questions asked. WE NEED CHANGE not the same garbage that has been in place the last 8 years. McCain sounds more like a cheerlearder saying he will do this and do that. But when has he, or Gov. Palin for that matter, given a straight answer with concrete ideas or solutions to any question raised at any of the three debates? And how come nobody talks about McCain, the self proposed individual, who does not know much about Economics? I'm sorry, but to be the President of this great nation, YOU MUST UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS....have you taken a look at our current situation? If we put someone in office who does not understand Economics and only relies on what his ADVISORS say, how much worse do you think our situation will become?

#40 — October 16, 2008 @ 02:18AM — Cannonshop

#39 Why? because he's figured out he's not supposed to win, that's why. McCain was put up to lose against Hillary, only the Democrats went and chose Obama instead. Palin was put on the ticket to get her out of Alaska, where she was damaging the Party Machinery by busting their collections-men for corruption-the VP candidate gig is all about neutralizing Sarah Palin on a permanent basis, and letting John have the nomination was and is intended to get him out of the Senate, and out of the way because he was embarassing his colleagues (you know, not looking for Earmarks, etc. etc.)

The Republican PARTY isn't interested in winning. McCain finally figured it out.

#41 — October 16, 2008 @ 09:44AM — Heloise

In this Aquarian Age of knowledge and information expansion sans border--wouldn't it be "dumb baby dumb" to put an idiot in the WH along with her grandpa? Just asking.

Heloise

#42 — October 16, 2008 @ 11:24AM — bliffle

The one issue that McCain launched that might have gotten him some mileage was the "Joe The Plumber" argument, but he failed to make it clear and follow through to logical conclusions. He dropped the ball. He seemed confused, as if all he had to do was mention Joe and smile to get people to fall in love with him.

#43 — October 16, 2008 @ 11:48AM — Neil

I admit to viewing the debate through a lens, being for Obama from the start, but I am dismayed by the media build up for McCain and the belief that he has shown anything new or improved in the final debate. I heard McCain repeat the same misrepresented facts while becoming flustered. If Obama seemed to repeat talking points it was only in response to McCain's repeated accusations that have not changed since the first debate. If McCain continues to claim the same facts that have been fact checked and proven false since the first debate how can that become anything but a weaker message? And please, this alleged strong point made that "I am not George Bush", the only thing meritorious there is replay value of a sound bite. So Obama isn't Roosevelt, but his policies mark a change in the failed policies that have permeated for a quarter century, therefore his direction is similar to Roosevelt and should be acknowledged as a TRUE approach towards saving our economy. McCain supported and has proposed Bush like policies that will change nothing. "Maverick" may be filler language to cover McCain's true republican colors, but this claim of not being Bush? It is widely understood that the majority of voters that are undecided want to hear about policy positions, not obtuse comebacks about doppelgangers.

#44 — October 16, 2008 @ 11:50AM — Jet [URL]

Opinion: As far as I can see there was only one real winner of the latest debate... Bob Schieffer! He showed the clearest reason in comparrison why he should NEVER have left the anchor desk at CBS News, and belongs back there now.

Opinion:
McCain's performance.
In a nutshell he appeared easily angered and revealed (again) his "How dare you speak to me in such a tone" attitude. A few times he appeared to be near slapping Obama for being disrespectiful to him. Not traits you'd want in a President.

McCain also showed an almost manic eye tick/blink to the point of my suspecting he was having flashbacks of being a POW-sending out secret messages via Morse Code. Several networks didn't display the split screen view of both candidates, so they weren't entertained/appalled by the obviously uncomfortable McCain's jumpy eyebrows, rolling eyes, constant smirking, jumbled words, self-righteous and dismissive gestures... not to mention rude interuptions, which didn't go unnoticed by the studio audience.

McCain's choice of Vice President came up, and it made me wonder what his choice of cabinet members would be like. As much as I want to be polite to/about her, the point was still forcefully driven home that should anything happen to McCain, do we really want Sara Palin in charge of the FBi, CIA, Pentagon and our nation's nuclear arsenal?

On abortion, McCain revealed his true self by branding concern over a woman's threatened life, forcing her to have an abortion as an "Extreme point of view"-In other words if a baby was going to be still-born and could take the mother's life if the pregnancy went full term, the concern should be on the doomed infant and not the mother.

McCain also fooled no one when he denied he'd only nominate anti-abortion judges to the Supreme Court-adding to the damage that President Bush has already done. McCain also seemed to be bursting at the seams to scream "I'M NOT GEORGE BUSH," and when he finally did deliver the line, all life seemed to have drained out of it, all but confirming what an embarrassment George W. Bush is, not only to the Republican Party, but to the internatioal community as well.

McCain fooled no one when he kept trying to use "Joe Plumber" as a body shield against incoming verbal fire. McCain completely missed the point that Obama had earlier pledged to cut taxes to anyone making less that a quarter-million a year... which would include Joe. Not only that, but Obama pledged to include small businesses in his tax cut plan. Then again McCain was probably falling back on his (already stated) belief that "Middle Class" was anyone making less than 2 million a year. By all reports, the repeated use of "Joe Plumber" obviously turned the audience off, and few could relate to him and/or that McCain wouldn't recognize the man on the street next week, and could personally care less about his plight.

McCain blundered when he mentioned the connection between Ayers and Obama, trying to make it appear as if they'd stood shoulder to shoulder in a radical fight against our sacred country. When Obama tried to force the fact that when "terrorist" Ayers was busy "terrorizing" the country in the sixties, Obama was only EIGHT YEARS OLD! McCain fought hard to contain his embarrassment and took on a "Don't confuse me with facts" attitude and kept right on making a fool of himself.

Opinion
As for Obama, he took too long to "get his stride" through the first half of the debate, at points having a "deer in the headlights" look. Obama was clearly lost as to how to handle McCain's direct comtempt for him.

Fortunately Sen. Obama figured out how to proceed through the second half and may have angered McCain by ignoring his attitude.


As I've said before, Bob Schieffer came out the clear winner, and was the obvious best moderator of all of the "debates"

which is my opinion...

#45 — October 16, 2008 @ 18:22PM — Howard

So far, all the conclusions by all the pundits are totally based upon POLLS. Not a single actual vote has been cast yet. Obama supporters gush at how well their man has done in the debates, which proves once again that Obama is a good debater and a good speaker. It doesn't say anything about his character, judgement, or what kind of a leader he would be.
I still would rather trust a man who would not sell out his fellow prisoners, even during 5 years of torture, than to trust a man who betrayed a 20 year friendship, for personal ambition. And ... regarding this election, until people actually vote ... it ain't over till it's over!

#46 — October 16, 2008 @ 18:28PM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

"Not a single actual vote has been cast yet."

Not true actually.

#47 — October 16, 2008 @ 18:37PM — Dr Dreadful [URL]

I still would rather trust a man who would not sell out his fellow prisoners, even during 5 years of torture, than to trust a man who betrayed a 20 year friendship, for personal ambition.

So, Howard, what's your opinion of the folks who berated Obama relentlessly for not disowning Jeremiah Wright and then, when he finally did, immediately turned around and slammed him for betraying a friend?

#48 — October 16, 2008 @ 18:58PM — Heloise [URL]

Obama is not really a great debater. I gave Hillary high marks on her debating skills, Joe Biden and even Mitt, Barack was somewhere in the middle. So what then does that say about McCain's debating skills? That's why I keep rating these a draw. But that being said it is actually a win for Obama because McCain is a better debater if he weren't so old, confused and in the tank for the GOP.

Heloise

#49 — October 16, 2008 @ 20:53PM — Mz. unknown

I Know[nt think] Obama won da debate. Forget McCain old azz. He aint go b da damn president. So all yall Obama haterz yall can kick rocks and blow bubbles cuz itz OBAMA 08.



Im out[!]

#50 — October 16, 2008 @ 21:54PM — Jet [URL]

As I hinted at in #44, this "debate" didn't really change anyone's minds-if you like McCain you perceived him as the winner, If you like Obama then he won.

In my opinion nobody won and all three evenst were just wastes of time

#51 — October 18, 2008 @ 19:23PM — Jon

Hey Im performing a statistical evaluation on peoples prefrence on the presidential candidates and their policies on education. Please take the survey! Its only 10 questions!

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